Cheney’s Trump Snub Sparks Opinions Down at Coffee Shop

by Bill Sniffin

A dozen gray-haired guys in Lander meet every morning for coffee and political discourse. Here is what three of them had to say about the recent events concerning Wyoming’s lone member of Congress Liz Cheney’s vote to impeach then-President Donald Trump:

Dave Kellogg, a retired IBM representative and chairman of the Wyoming Catholic College board: “As I reflect on the actions of Rep. Liz Cheney, I have come to a somewhat more modified view of her part in the impeachment of former President Trump. 

“I believe her vote was retribution for Trump’s attack on her of a couple of weeks prior, even though it was contrary to the wishes of the majority of her constituency. Human nature being what it is.  

“What I do not understand is her willing participation in what can only be called a corruption of due process.  An impeachment is an accusation of wrongdoing (not a conviction).  The House took the impeachment action on a mostly partisan and arbitrary vote without any basis of facts. It was all based on dislike for Trump, false assumptions, and misrepresentation of facts.

“It concerns me that a person with a legal background, as has Liz Cheney, would take part in an accusation that had prepared no formal evidence, had conducted no open hearings, and had refused to review any defense.  It gives me pause when I consider this might be some kind of pattern of snap judgments and vindictive actions that, at some point, could be detrimental to her sober and reasonable consideration of other controversial issues, especially ones that have an emotional side to them. 

“I am sure this lapse of judgment will reflect on her future which might consist of an opportunity to be Speaker of the House if the Republicans do take control of the US House of Representatives in 2022 (or perhaps a 2024 or later run for the Presidency).  It might also, however I doubt it, have an impact on her future as the US Representative from Wyoming.”

Another coffee shop attendee County Commissioner Mike Jones said: “Good points Dave, I have a few thoughts rattling around.  Whether this was a corruption of the process or not is unknown, nor can it be known without judicial review.  

“There are lots of opinions but for a layman to decide on the issue is difficult.  I think there is a case to be made that this was very strategic decision for her, for whatever she sees as an endgame.

“I don’t see her taking impulsive actions. Strategically, she called for a secret ballot vote regarding her leadership with house Republicans because she knew she would win it (rather than a roll call). Kevin McCarthy is a B player at best and she outplayed him.   

“I would also bet she is willing to push the pro-Trump part of the Republican party to the brink of divide to expand the more traditional moderate base.  She knows, and they know, a split Republican party is a dead Republican party in Presidential politics. Again, she has the strategic high ground.  I just don’t see snap judgements in her make up.  As for the Wyoming Republican party, a little less extreme would not hurt us.

“Congress is a stage.  From what I have seen of her, she plays it very well and 95% of the time represents the Republican party and Wyoming well.  To try and punish her for one bit of theater is, in my humble opinion, part of this black and white view that seems so prevalent in the U.S. today.  No one is 100% of anything. The litmus test our Wyoming Republican party wants to hold  everyone to is completely counterproductive.”  

“Dead on, on all points,” said John Brown, an IT specialist and Republican activist: “Liz is definitely playing a longer game here.”

“It might help to look at the situation and why she did what she did if you consider what her long-term strategy might be.

“For example: If you were going to run for President in 4 years, what would you try to do to win that Trump couldn’t do? Maybe try to pick up more Independent votes, win those soccer moms over in the Virginia suburbs, and appeal to those more moderate GOP votes in purple swing states like North Carolina and in the Industrial Midwest. “What does voting to impeach Trump get you? A lot of those Independent voters as well as those soccer moms and moderate GOP votes. It also denies the Democrats a campaign issue they could throw in a competitor’s face if the Republican candidate for president was seen as being ‘too cozy’ with Trump.

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mark steingass
11 days ago

Clever wording using third persons in your article here by a true Trump supporter Mr Sniffin…however I’m not surprised you seldom pass the “smell test” regarding your stinkin’ Sniffin’ biased political beliefs regarding our past president…at least in my opinion

mark steingass
11 days ago

What does Liz Cheney’s decision to vote for the impeachment of Trump get her?…it exemplifies she thinks “outside the box” and that she has the courage to make “tough decisions”…if she does have a long term strategy regarding her future in politics that may be a good thing for Wyoming

Cindy Livingston
11 days ago

Very interesting. Brought up a few points that are worth exploring further.

David Withrow
11 days ago

Unfortunately Lander being in the liberal camp doesn’t understand Republican politics. Liz called up daddy and said “What shall I do”. Daddy said, ‘You know the Bushes hate Trump so you have to accuse him of planning the whole thing and trying to take over the government. That will get me in good with the Boys”. So Liz basically gave up her seat in congress for Daddy. Well, she doesn’t have a fishing license and doesn’t live here anyway. Let’s get rid of Liz and McConnell Jr. and elect citizens from Wyoming

Mitch Smith
11 days ago

I think Liz STILL thinks she lives in DC, someone might remind her that she represents Wyoming? Oh, and i guess that you have now been a resident long enough to qualify (FINALLY) for a RESIDENT Fishing License!

Bob Wilhelm
2 days ago

Playing the long game might be excuse enough for her fellow Washington politicians, but it won’t fly with the Wyoming voters. Such a basic betrayal is not likely to get her reelected from Wyoming.